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Post by Morgan McLeod on May 19, 2014 4:55:53 GMT -5
I want to start by congratulating you for making finals. I am not going to add any pretty graphics, or nice fonts because quite frankly I give zero fucks about this. I am bitter. Too fucking bad. Coming into this I was rooting for LJ, but his opening statement sucked more than Paris Hilton on a Sunday night. But then, the other two opening statements sucked too. Sherea’s was the best, and it was fucking Sherea’s so LOL at that. LJ – I was rooting for you. And then, that opening statement. Holy train-wreck. I am glad to learn you are human though, for a while there I thought you were a robot or something. And then your grammar… ugh, you are killing me smalls. I WANT to vote for you, I really do, but fuck are you making it hard!!! Mikayla – I was not going to even address you, to be honest, but your opening statement literally made me LOL. You revealing your alias makes me want to vote for you even less, not because I have anything against you [since I <3 Rob] but the fact that I know you can play an outstanding game and you chose to do whatever the fuck you were doing this whole season angers me. Also, let the record show that you did NOT convince me to not vote for you. I ended not doing it because had I voted you out, the repercussions with my alliance and the people I was trying to get close to would have been too much. So, not your doing. Sherea – You had me going in your opening statement I was getting pumped, and then just when I was about to become team Sherea, it all crumbled. Make no mistake, you made it to the finals because LJ, myself, and Mikayla all thought you sucked. Not because of anything you did, but because we all viewed you as a goat and someone who would be easy to beat. Feel free to respond to my statement. In reality though, I probably will roll my eyes because I do believe I am right. And I’m a stubborn motherfucker. Change my mind though. Now, some questions: Sherea & Mikayla – You both stated multiple times that Lj was the biggest threat. Then he spoke at Tribal and suddenly I am out the door. After you both said multiple times he was the biggest threat. In my mind, and considering you both were seen goats/pawns it makes sense that he led you to the slaughterhouse. I am certain you both would bah and say it wasn’t true. So, tell me why the sudden change of heart? Also, why keep me in the dark when I literally told both of you I had submitted my vote and clearly had no other moves to make? It could have carried some favor. Furthermore, it would not have made it seem like LJ played both of you. Also, I told both of you I would vote LJ if I made finals, yet you still took me out, do you really think 3 guaranteed votes for one player is not a threat, or what was up with that? All of you - I want to know how much you actually knew from the game. Thus I want you to list each juror and tell me their strategy, their main allies, their biggest asset to the game, their biggest flaw, how you used that combination of asset and flaw to your advantage, what their storyarc throughout the season would be [if it was televised] and to compare them to a survivor from the show. IF your reasons for comparing someone have anything to do with their placing you are not getting my vote. I also want to know who you considered your three biggest threats to your personal game and why. This can be from the whole cast. Finally, I refuse to vote for someone who did not at least use spell check. Why? Because I’m a bitch, and it’s my vote so I can do whatever the fuck I want. Also, anyone who tries to bullshit throughout the whole FTC will not get my vote. Or overuses emoticons [looking at you LJ]. Cool? Cool. ~Morgan.
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Post by LJ McKanas on May 19, 2014 12:48:04 GMT -5
I want to start by saying I apologise about the grammar or spelling mistakes. English is not my first language and I can assure you I proofread everything I write for about 5 times before sending it.
As of my speech sucking. Please read mine first, and then read Sherea's because it seems she was not interested on writing something original and just re-wrote what I wrote in the same order as I did.
So I think I did a pretty decent job compared to theirs. As I think I did this entire game.
As far as the Fourth Monster goes. It just makes it even sadder. And, to be honest, many of you played amazing games before in this series. So that doesn't make it any less or more harder for you guys.
This is my first time though, So I'm proud of what I did and how far I got.
I will address your question later today as I'm leaving right now.
Thanks.
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Post by LJ McKanas on May 19, 2014 22:19:10 GMT -5
I will address your question tomorrow. I've been feeling pretty sick today and I think I better go and lay down.
Sorry but I'll get back to them as soon as I can tomorrow.
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Post by LJ McKanas on May 21, 2014 10:57:28 GMT -5
MORGANYour strategy: I think your strategy was one of the most intelligent in the game. From the beginning, you spoke your mind and told whatever you considered to be the truth. You began playing an UTR game but at the same time you did whatever you wanted to do about the votes, never rode anybody's coattails and despite speaking your mind and telling what you really thought to everyone, you did it in a way that made people respect you and that made people interested in talking to you and maybe playing with you. You were a pleasure to talk to, so you had almost everyone under your arm, we all thought we kind of had an alliance with you because of how good of a talker you were; however, you never compromised your vote and never did what others told you. You also always told the truth about what you were doing. This was great because nobody thought you were a threat because they saw you as an ally. That way, you always floated away from any drama and managed to stay even when early on you were targeted probably for being the most outspoken one. At the end, you showed how intelligent you were by playing the game for yourself and deciding for yourself who was the people that needed to go to the end in order for you to win. You had a heavy hand in getting Allie and Phillip out and also proved to be a strong player in challenges when you needed to be.
Your main allies: This one may sound like I had no idea about the game, but if you had any ally you covered them very well. At the beginning we thought it was Bob-Penner-Chicken but it turned out it was just you really liking them. I also thought you an Allie were tight, but then you voted her out. Jeremiah and you also had a great friendship, but I don't think you ever compromised to him 100%. At the end, when we were at final four I was certain you and Sherea had a final deal and I never thought she would be voting for you to go. I still think you and Sherea were good friends and had a strong connection, so she's also the closest to ally I can say you had.
Your biggest asset: Your communication skills. It was ridiculous how good of a talker you are and how embellished your words turn to be. You really had everyone going with what you told them. Also, the way that you made us believe you were with us without compromising with anyone was brilliant.
Your biggest flaw: I think you played a flawless game. Had you gotten to the end, you wouldn't have even been burned by the judges. I really do think had you gotten to the end with Allie, Jeremiah and myself we had a pretty even chance to fight for the end but I also think it was obvious keeping Mikayla and Sherea gave you a chance. They changed their mind but neither you nor me were expecting that. So i'm not going to blame you for that. It goes down to probably not winning last challenge? I don't even know. I really thought you'd be here because of the perfect game you played (which also didn't put a big target on you like I did to myself).
How I used you asset/flaw to my advantage: I really don't think for a second I got to play you or with you. You were a single rider and you did whatever you wanted. I tried to ally with you to vote out Sherea, then to vote out Mikayla but it really didn't worked out. Maybe the only thing I got to use to my advantage was at final 4 because your game was pretty much obvious to me and I got to display it in front of Sherea and Mikayla trying to make you look like someone who got all the jury votes under your arm. This was absolutely true and maybe had I not displayed that to them, I wouldn't be here. So that may be the only way I got an advatange from your assets/flaws... other than that it was impossible to do so.
Storyarc: At the beginning of the show you would be televised a lot because it seemed that you knew everything about everyone and you were pretty accurate about who they were and what they were doing. Your witty comments and sarcastic remarks would've made for great television. Right at the beginning of the merge, you wouldn't be televised as much because despite being the strategic swing vote for the first rounds, drama went around other players, while you were good to everyone and kept on going. At the end, your strength, determination and cleverness would be displayed on the television making everyone at home believe you knew what you were doing from the beginning and you had every elimination in your hands to further your game and get to the end.
Comparison: Jerry in Heroes vs. Villains.
Jerry played an amazing game in HvV. She was never scared of speaking her mind, she was good at talking to people and having them by her side and in merge she became the most important swing vote making people like Parvati trying to get her on their side. At the end, she fell short because she made a great relationship with everyone and had she gotten to the end it was probable that she would've won.TO BE CONTINUED.... (OMG THIS WILL TAKE A WHILE) I also want to know who you considered your three biggest threats to your personal game and why. This can be from the whole cast.
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Post by Morgan McLeod on May 21, 2014 23:32:52 GMT -5
I need answers by Friday 2 AM. I am leaving for the airport and I will not have computer access. Also, I hate waiting.
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Post by Sherea Lloyd on May 21, 2014 23:38:19 GMT -5
If you hate waiting don't ask such a long ass, detailed question.
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Post by mikayla on May 22, 2014 0:47:27 GMT -5
Hey babe.
Let's be real, you're probably not voting for me, <3 the real me through you might. So here's what I'll do. I'll answer the first part of your question, and if you like it enough that you'd like to hear more from me, then I'll do the second part. Otherwise, it'd just be a waste of both of our time.
As I told you when I PMed you, I wound up working late that day. It wasn't my intention to keep you in the dark, but that's just how real life worked out. I could have PMed you to let you know that I'd changed my mind, but it would have been a literal last-minute PM that would have seemed like an incredibly transparent and cowardly suck-up gesture. So I could have PMed you and lost some respect, or not PMed you and lost some respect. The end result was the same either way.
For the second question - of course 3 guaranteed votes for one player is a threat. Four or more guaranteed votes for another player is an even bigger threat.
You and LJ both told us the exact same thing, that you would vote for the other person if we voted you off. We were both losing a potential jury vote either way, so it ultimately came down to who we thought the other jurors were more likely to vote for. Between a spastic habitual liar and a well-spoken, erudite seductress without blood on her hands, it seemed like a pretty simple choice. You were very smart and great at arguing, and you'd have put on a powerhouse performance if we'd let you get to the end. LJ didn't have the same capabilities that you do, so that made him a slightly less suicidal option to take to the finals.
So, there you have it. If you'd like me to continue on with your massive essay question of doom, I'll happily do so tomorrow.
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Post by Morgan McLeod on May 22, 2014 2:23:26 GMT -5
If you hate waiting don't ask such a long ass, detailed question. I posted it as soon as possible because I knew I had to leave. However, if you want I can just vote for one of the others, it's NO problem.
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Post by LJ McKanas on May 22, 2014 2:33:03 GMT -5
I will address your second question just because I have two finals coming up tomorrow and friday and there's a possibility I won't get the chance to finish your first question on time. (If you have read my other answers I think you would know I knew what everyone was doing though). This being said, I will try my best to answer them tomorrow.
I also want to know who you considered your three biggest threats to your personal game and why. This can be from the whole cast.
My three biggest threats:
1. Morgan
The fact that I only considered you a threat at final 4 when it was either you or me at the end really points out how big of a threat you were this entire game. I don't know why I didn't thought about it before but had I, I should've listened to Yve, Brice, Mikayla and even Corinne when they told me about voting you out, because whoever you got to the end with I think you would've taken the prize. I'm still very surprised about how clever you were, your every word was precisely manufactured for us to believe you and yet again for us to not target you and for us to know you hadn't compromised yourself or lied about anything. I think you never lied about what you were doing. Not once. That's commendable and way too perfect of a game to not consider a threat. BTW, that F5 idol you pulled out of nowhere (specially for the other 3 that weren't keeping track of who had won what at the auction) really was a game changer move. You got out Phillip with your own hands while everyone else kept looking like an spectator.
2. Malcolm
The more I seemed to like you the more of a threat you became. I am 100% confident that hadn't you question my trustworthiness when I tried to keep safe Allie for a second time you would've taken me out and everything would've been the other way around. You wanted to control every move and very often you did, I knew you were quiet sometimes but I also knew you already had planned out a lot of moves ahead of everyone. You looked calmed and collected while I looked like a mess. I know I took you out because of what you said to me, but I'm glad I did because your game was as quiet, calm and collected as Morgan but on top of that you were doing 1000 alliances, 1000 tricks, 1000 moves, 1000 plans and nobody knew much about them ( which I can't say for myself).
3. Bob
I don't know how you do it. How you are so adorable and make everything seem so calm. I felt like shit when I voted you out specifically because of those reasons. You were strong, you were determined and had that immunity challenge not been about people bombarding you with rocks you will probably be standing here. You had a way with words that actually ended up being a part of the destruction of my first alliance. You planted the seed about Sherea talking stuff she didn't even knew about because she was not part of this game, you also planted the seed about Malcolm wanted me out and even though I took you out and decided to be loyal, that ended up being what stuck in my head and make me go against Malcolm despite having Phillip still in the game. There were plans before you that ran out of your grasp, but that doesn't mean you went home for being a bad player. You actually went home because if we didn't took you out when we got the chance, I wouldn't be here in the final, but you would've.
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Post by Sherea Lloyd on May 23, 2014 0:41:52 GMT -5
Morgan, to answer your first question, I decided to take LJ to the finals because I saw him as the lesser of two big threats. I think if you had made it to the Final 3, this Tribal Council would have ended the day it began. My job prevented me from being online much that round, so I never got to chat with you about my decision. And while 3 guaranteed jury votes is threatening, I think you had more guaranteed jury votes than LJ, so it made more sense to get rid of you at that time.
The three biggest threats to my game were you, Phil, and LJ. The tricky part was, in some way or another, I needed all of you to get to the finals. The three of you played strong social games and were more vocal about your moves than Mikayla or I, which we are seeing is coming to bite us in the ass. Morgan, no one truly knew where you stood most of the time, which made you a dangerous player. A lot of people really liked you, though, and you had much favor in the Jury. Phillip proved to be the smartest of players, as he proved by making it to Top 5 with a target on his back the entire time. People oftentimes believed that Phil was calling all the shots, and I think he would have swept Jury votes had he made it to this point. LJ was a threat to my game because he was a loose cannon. He was making shifty deals with everyone and was oftentimes caught in the act. He was also a strong physical player and won challenges when he truly needed them. Unfortunately, since all 3 of you made the Final 5 and there was a Final 3, only 2 of you could be eliminated, and I'm left competing against one of my biggest threats this entire game.
As for your novel of a final question, I am dead ass tired after working an 80+ hour week, but I know you want your answers before tomorrow so I'm going to do my best to answer them tonight as I can. Excuse me if they are briefer than you would have liked.
Chicken: I didn't get to see much of Chicken's strategy because we were never really on the same tribe, though I've played with Chicken in the past (he doesn't know it) and he's a great guy to play with. His primary allies were Penner and Bob, and that's why he had to go when he did. His biggest asset to the game was that he was genuinely likable and a funny character. His flaw was that his alliance was too obvious and he waited too late to do anything about it. Having a tight threesome and being likable makes you a huge threat, so that was perfect reason for him to leave when he did. His story arc in the show would have been similar to Marcus from Gabon, because, like Marcus, he had a tight knit alliance, was pretty likable, but got screwed over early.
Bob: Bob's strategy revolved around being pretty social. Bob was liked by many because of his strong social skills, and had his alliance with Chicken and Penner not have been discovered I think he could have made it far into this game. I would say his asset and flaw were very similar to Chicken's and he went home for the same reason. His story arc in the show would have portrayed him as someone who wasn't willing to give up after he realized his alliance was doomed. Trying to relate him to a character in the actual show, I can't think of anyone but Bob himself. When I think of Bob, I think of Bob from Gabon. Bob in the show was liked by many, and he was one hell of a fighter, just like our Bob here was. Bob didn't give up when the odds were against him, and Bob here did not give up either.
Penner: Penner's strategy was to build trust amongst many. I know he told several people, like he told me, that he was with them 100% and that they should stick together. Quickly after he told me that he was with me, I found out that he was truly close with. His social skills were both his asset and his flaw in this game, as it came back to bite him in the ass and he was ultimately sent home. If I were comparing EVERYONE to a survivor cast member, I would save Russell Hantz for LJ, but since LJ isn't one of my answers, I'll give Russell Hantz to Penner. While Penner wasn't quite as devious as Russell, I know that he had some tricks up his sleeve, and had he made it further, we truly would have seen his inner Russell come out.
Allie: Allie had an alliance with LJ, Jeremiah, and Phillip. Her closest ally, though, was LJ, and she must have done a pretty damn good job of convincing him of something because he worked his ass off to defend her sometimes. I think that was her biggest strategy. She garnered so much trust from her allies that they ultimately fought tooth and nail for her. Otherwise, I never saw much of Allie. We never really talked. I think her biggest asset was her ability to garner such trust amongst her allies. Her biggest flaw was placing too much trust in this ability and ultimately sacrificing a strong social game for it. I used her strong alliance with LJ and Jeremiah against her to assist in getting her out of the game. I would say Allie would have been the pretty girl in the show who relied on her looks and her body to get through. She swooned LJ and Jeremiah and had them fighting hard to keep her. Thus, she is much like a Parvati, using her looks and her brain to lure people in to ultimately fight for her safety. Unfortunately for Allie, it didn't work quite as well as Parvati.
Malcolm: Malcolm was definitely a strong social player. I think Malcolm's strategy was to form a tight alliance but to not make any big, unnecessary moves. I know this because I tirelessy begged him to take out LJ with me multiple times. His primary allies were myself, Phillip, and MIkayla, and he also had an alliance early on with myself, LJ, and Jeremiah. Malcolm's biggest asset is that he was a strategic AND a social player. He truly capitalized on both his logic and his social skills to win people's favor and make logical decisions. I don't really think he had many flaws to his game play. He truly got screwed over by the team twist. I would compare Malcolm to Aaron from Survivor: China. Fortunately, Malcolm lasted much longer. But they are both strong, intelligent, well liked individuals who, inevitably, got screwed over by twists.
Jeremiah: Jeremiah's strategy was to lay low, but at the same time be all over the place. I could never put a grasp on where Jeremiah's head was at. He had an alliance with Phil, Allie, and LJ and an alliance with me, Malcolm, and LJ. His closest ally was definitely LJ, though. Jeremiah's asset was that he was able to lay low for the most part, so many people didn't see how much he scrambled. His flaw, though, was his paranoia. This combined with his connection to LJ ended up being why he went when he did. Looking back, it may have been smarter to keep him around, but that's in the past at this point. Jeremiah's story arc would have been limited, I don't think he would have gotten too much air time. Jeremiah kind of reminds me of Kass from Cagayan. She scrambled a lot, was somewhat paranoid, and ultimately was defeated in the end.
Phillip: Phillip was oftentimes the mastermind and he didn't care if he was seen as the mastermind. HIs strategy was to have multiple alliances that he controlled and he typically would fight to have his word be the final decision. His alliances were with LJ, Allie, and Jeremiah and then with myself, Malcolm, and Mikayla. Mikayla was his biggest ally in the game. His asset is that he was a social and mental genius. He played a nearly flawless game. His flaw would have to be being so vocal about being the mastermind. People viewed him as the puppet master, and I knew that I couldn't have someone that was seen as the "matermind" in the finals. In the show, Phil would have taken up most of the air time and would have been seen as the controlling one that you love to hate (no offense, phil). I would say he would be most like Rob Cesternino. A true strategist who's brilliance was his downfall.
Morgan: I have to agree with LJ (weird, huh) on this one, Morgan. You were quite the mystery to me this entire game. I never knew where you stood or who you were alligned with and I think this was your strategy the entire time. You were liked by nearly everyone and played a pretty great strategic game. Your flaw was that you played too well and had to go before the finals. You would have been the other master strategist of the season who wasn't afraid to tell it how it is. A very vocal player, but also a mystery to many. I honestly think I would compare you to (and this means a lot coming from me because I'm obsessed with this castaway) Sandra Diaz-Twine. Sandra is smart, social, and sassy, a deadly combination that I think you had.
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Post by Morgan McLeod on May 23, 2014 1:13:30 GMT -5
Thank you all. I wish I could finish hearing what you guys have to say, great answers Sherea. I wish you all the best of luck, and hope the best one wins.
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