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Post by phillip on May 19, 2014 12:59:45 GMT -5
LJ I think most of us on the jury know the kind of game you played. You were very emotional and fantastic in the challenges, and I'm sure you know you made the Final 4 only by virtue of winning challenges, otherwise you would have gone out at the Final 8 when Malcolm went. That's fine and totally fair game, Brandon put in not ONE but TWO Immunity challenges that really gave you safety for TWO Rounds each, so there were 4 votes you were completely safe in the game. Both of those were endurance based too, so it was really matter of who had "less of life", but it does measure dedication as well to an extent, just not all us have 6 hours to sit on our ass and post every minute. Your emotion really hurt you in your efforts to protect Allie and everyone saw through you on that, I just wanted Penner gone more. I think you played a very passionate game though, just not a mastermind one. Mikayla and Sherea, both of you really played more subtle games, but we all know that both of you were hardly ever online, and Sherea you hardly participated in challenges as well. Frankly I don't see either of you as the true masterminds of the game, you were followers of Malcolm and I within the game, and Malcolm and I both left in situations we had little power to prevent. Bob went as planed, now I have 2 secret agent alliances going on at the same time: Jeremiah-LJ-Allie and Phillip Phillip-Sherea-Malcolm-Mikayla Morgan ( a free agent so to speak) Penner ( the clear outsider) Since I told Malcolm about the alliance I have with the others and made an F2 with him, i think he will trust me and not try to use it against me. It's not like LJ-Jeremiah and Allie are reaching out to him anyway. I'm playing all sides right now which is aggresive but in my position I really have no choice. I almost went home twice pre-merge already and I just want to fight to make the end again to shove it in Boston Rob and Penner's face. I didn't really care as much prior to their relentless efforts to kill me, in a strange way it invigorated me and made me wanna play even harder. Tonight seems to be a Live Auction and TC, which makes it a HUGELY important event. The immunity will be somewhat random, if Penner gets it, likely Morgan will go because LJ will want to protect Allie. We also don't have the time or power to organize a back up a plan, it would need to be in place before the live TC because not everyone is going to make it. I'm gonna try to make sure everyone bootlists Penner and either Morgan/Allie as a back up so tonight doesn't turn into a disaster. This was my move in the game, forming alliances with both sides, and I even told Malcolm I was in case LJ-Jeremiah-Allie tried to use my alliance with them against me. Now Sherea, my question for you is who were you more with in this game Malcolm or I? After LJ and Allie went home Malcolm was confident you would switch over to his side to take me out, was this the case? I know we have played a couple times in the past when even when you knew I was probably beating you in the end you still stuck by me, so this would seem very out of character for you.For the 3 of you, name every move you made in the game at each vote in the game, obviously skipping over ones you had no control over. I want to know how you influenced every vote. Also, why should I vote for you over the other 2 finalists?
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Post by LJ McKanas on May 19, 2014 22:20:15 GMT -5
I will address your question tomorrow. I've been feeling pretty sick today and I think I better go and lay down.
Sorry but I'll get back to them as soon as I can tomorrow.
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Post by LJ McKanas on May 22, 2014 2:54:40 GMT -5
I agree with you. I'm more passionate than methodical. But passionate can also win this game. Vote 1: Edna No control over that one. Vote 2: Andrea My vote became a swing vote as I was the leader. It was clearly a strategic move for me to get rid of Andrea, so I did so. Plus, I instigated people's thoughts and tried to create chaos between them since they were clearly divided into two. This specifically I did with Yve and Brice, supporting them in their interest of getting Morgan/Bob out, just by listening to them, without compromising my integrity. Vote 3: Boston Rob I think this one I can say was very heavily because of me. We wanted to vote Phillip out but Jeremiah came to me about a secret alliance created by Rob to vote out Phillip. He kept me out of it and that immediately made me question his loyalty and game. I rallied up my alliance members who agreed with me and we, all together, voted for Rob for being a snitch. You should be happy about that one Phil. Vote 4: Corinne I was leader once again. Picked by Penner. And once again I was a swing vote. I had created a bond with Allie and Bob and some kind of weird relationship with Morgan so once again I voted with those guys but I kept on working Yve in the possibility that I needed her. My vote was decisive this round. Vote 5: Whitney. Whitney decided to create a fake message from Jeremiah that made him look like a liar at the Boston Rob vote. Jeremiah was my number one man so I had to keep him safe. I told certain people about the fake message, kept you on the outs about it and voted Whitney out. I was leader that round and visited your tribe. You had immunity. Vote 6: Brice Not much. Just someone we needed out. We all agreed on it. Vote 7: Yve People wanted to vote Allie out. They wanted to take her out with idol and all. I convinced them about Allie being with us and voting with us (which she always did) and I told them instead of voting her out I would tell her she was in danger so she would use her idol, flush it, but she could also stay and be with us. At that point, Allie, Morgan and Yve could've ganged up against Malcolm, Sherea and myself and could've voted one of us out with their vote. By telling Allie she was the one going home, I earned her trust far more, I also saved them from doing any scrambling and finding out Malcolm, Sherea and myself were together. Vote 8: Chicken Bob was immune. We needed someone from that alliance gone. Vote 9: Bob Bob thought I was with him because he had "given me an idol" that way he felt he had the numbers and could stay. I learned about every possible vote he had, I also knew what he was thinking and who he was voting. At the end I didn't give him an idol and gave him no chance to scramble because we knew exactly where his head was at. We also ensured the people that could probably vote with him would have stayed with us. Vote 10: Penner. Same thing as vote 9. Also had a huge influence on that vote. Penner thought I would be using my idol on him but I didn't. I learned he didn't had a strong power by manipulating him and letting Brandon tell me what he had. I also saved Allie who was an ally of mine and who I knew I could trust. Had I not do that Allie would've left and I would've lied to Penner which would've just left me in a terrible spot. Vote 11. Allie. I tried to gang with Morgan and Allie and Jeremiah and voted Sherea out. But it didn't work because Morgan strategically thought about her best possibility. Vote 12. Malcolm. I told you to vote Malcolm and you were clearly left with no option. Mikayla did approached me about voting you out but at that point it was clear you guys were working together so I didn't even bother. Vote 13. Jeremiah. No control over this one. You decided to go with Mikayla and voted Jeremiah out. My hands were tied. Vote 14. Phillip. This was my self vote strategy. I felt I was screwed getting into the F4 I had to do something to redeem myself. I needed to look sloppy and trustworthy for the girls. It was a long shot, but I think it worked. Especially because I knew you were going home and that worked miraculously for me. Vote 15. Morgan. I mean. I wrote essays to stay over her. One to Mikayla's inbox other one in front of everyone. I said everything I could for them to consider keeping me. I was the liar and the maniacal one and that's why they kept me. But I think my game did looked stronger than Morgan's on paper so hadn't I told that to them, I would've probably gone home. I want to thank you for this question Phillip because it actually helped me realised even when I felt I didn't, I did played a really good game and had a heavy hand in almost every vote til the end. I think it is pretty clear why I should win and not Mikayla or Sherea. While they listened to Phillip or Malcolm on who to vote I was making moves every round to assure my best possibilities in the game. Sometimes they didn't worked out, but for the most part I did great and got here.
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Post by Sherea Lloyd on May 22, 2014 14:32:22 GMT -5
Phillip, to answer your first question, I can honestly say that had it come down to you or Malcolm, it would have been a spur of the moment decision that would have benefited me most at that point in the game. I have enjoyed working with you in the past, and am typically very loyal, but I knew that I had to do what was best to get me to the finals this game, so it would have been dependent on the situation. To be quite honest, it was in my best interest that both of you be eliminated before the finals. As much as I like the two of you, you were both great players and a threat to everyone. I'm sorry if you lose respect for me or if I lose loyalty points for that, because I know we have worked well together in the past, but I was looking out for Sherea this go around.
Now for your second question -
Edna: No vote
Andrea: No vote
Rob: Rob put up a very convincing argument against you, Phil. I find it very comical that LJ is taking so much credit for this when it was Allie who truthfully rallied the troops. I was approached by another tribemate saying that Allie was wanting to vote out Rob, and shortly after, Allie herself approached me. I had full intentions of telling you, Phil, that Rob was targetting you because we were aligned, but it seems that that news traveled fast. I agreed with Allie and then spoke with others to assist with swaying the vote to Rob. We all played an equal part in ensuring we had the votes for Rob to go, but Allie was the ring leader in this vote.
Corrine: No vote
Whitney: No vote
Brice: This was pretty much a group consensus. At the time, the Napacos were sticking together and Brice was the weakest link. I had never talked to him so I threw his name out there and everyone was thinking the same thing. So out he went.
Yve: As much as I don't want to call LJ out, his answer to Yve's boot is complete bull. Mikayla, Malcolm, LJ, and I had a group chat specifically for this vote and the Brice vote. LJ was all over the place for the Yve vote, and actually proposed that Allie be booted with her idol at one point.
LJ McKanas: and vote with her and use the idol against us tomorrow either allie has to go or we have to flush her idol
We were worried that Allie and Chicken were close, so I spoke with Chicken and found out that he would rather Allie go over Yve, raising red flags for us. As much as I liked Yve, it was best that we get rid of her because of her potential ties to her old tribe, while still trying to flush out Allie's idol.
Malcolm Freberg: So are we going to go with Yve? Should we still try to flush the idol? LJ McKanas: I could try to do that. we tell Allie we're not sure about one of us and that Chicken is pushing? Apr 30, 2014 12:47 AM Sherea Lloyd: whatever we do tell Chicken we are voting Allie that way, if he is bluffing us and actually is working with allie, she'll play her idol. and if he's not he won't scramble Apr 30, 2014 12:48 AM LJ McKanas: and what do we tell Allie? Malcolm Freberg: That sounds like a good plan Sherea Lloyd: malcolm, mikayla, and I tell allie we're voting yve but since you have a good relationship tell her that we're actually planning to vote allie.
So, while it was a joint plan, I would say I put it into words and initiated it. Yes, LJ did try to protect Allie, but he was super wishy washy this vote and did not instigate the plan as he would like to think. It was definitely a team effort of all of us making sure Allie thought the vote was for her, and we did successfully flush her idol without risking any of us going home that round.
Chicken: All of us knew Chicken, Penner, and Bob were tight, and I think at this vote even Chicken knew he was in danger. He reached out to several of us to help save him, but didn't have enough numbers to make a move. Bob was immune this round, and while he was the original target, one of his allies had to go.
Bob: I hated making this vote, because I wish something could have worked out to where I could have worked with Bob. While his name was simply the next on the list, this is when I really started taking advantage of LJ's paranoia and Bob and I discussed a lot of LJ's shenanigans of promising multiple Final 2 and Final 3 deals with people in the game. Bob, as I suspected, reported this information to others and LJ found out, which began to sever my ties with him and raised his paranoia levels to the max.
Penner: This was all Phillip. Phillip wanted Penner gone for a while at this point and for this vote it was fine to just honor his wishes. However, to further sever my ties with LJ and to increase his paranoia in hopes that he would play his idol, I kept my vote for Allie. LJ, then, at this point, told Malcolm that he was done with the game and that we should just vote him off next (yep, you heard it hear first, folks, LJ pleaded to be voted out at one point. Such a winner, right?) He also mistakenly played his idol at this point, which was my plan this entire time. Unfortunately, his immunity streaks never allowed me to act on this.\
Allie: I truly thought I was screwed at this point. Jeremiah was immune and I knew that Morgan was still somewhat of a wildcard, so I told her that I had to double vote to gain her trust and together we voted out Allie.
Malcolm: RIP, friend. I had no control here.
Jeremiah: I would have preferred it be LJ, but that damn immunity kept getting in the way. At this point I was allgned with Mikayla and Phil and also had Morgan's trust after the last vote, so Jeremiah was clearly best for my game at this point in order to not gain any enemies.
Phillip: At this point, I knew Morgan had the hidden immunity idol. I could have easily told you, Phillip, about this idol but I chose not to in order to ensure that you didn't pull any crazy stunts as you normally do that could have sent my ass home. I hated to betray you but it had to happen at some point, and Morgan's idol just assisted with this. We had no idea where LJ's head was at, and then he self voted anyways (class act) so it didn't matter.
Morgan: I didn't even read LJ and Morgan's bickering in that tribal, Mikayla and I both knew that Morgan was the bigger threat and had more jury votes, so she had to go.
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Post by phillip on May 22, 2014 15:08:50 GMT -5
Thanks I made my decision, that's basically what I expected Sherea, no real surprises.
I was surprised by some of your answers LJ and some of the hidden things you did behind the scenes we didn't know about.
Good luck to both of you.
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